The Commandant’s Gamble

If the hysteria over finding toilet paper was not enough, March 23 saw Marines taking to social media platforms and expressing outrage over an article published by the Marine Corps Times and Wall Street Journal. The article outlined the Marine Corps’ Commandant’s plan to eliminate Tank units as well as a major reduction of artillery and aviation units, not to mention the elimination of bridging and law enforcement units. But the rage was mainly over the news of the plan to reduce the number of infantry battalions from 24 to 21 which is starting with the elimination of the 8th Marine Regiment’s command element, HQ Company and one of it’s battalions, 3rd Bn 8th Marines (3/8).

Under this initial change, the other two battalions 1/8 and 2/8 will be reallocated respectively to 2nd and 6th Marine Regiment. The change takes the East Coast-based 2nd Marine Division from 3 infantry regiments of 3 battalions each to now 2 regiments each carrying 4 battalions. The configuration is more like the California based 1st Marine Division which still has 3 infantry regiments but each carrying 4 battalions.

Social Media was buzzing with disdain, but moreso a misunderstanding of the Commandant’s plans. It also seemed most had not truly read the article, rather the header that was going around as many thought all 3 battalions were going away. (And trust me I had my initial negative reaction as I myself am a veteran of both 1st and 2nd Bn 8th Marines. Seeing news of the regiment I served in being disbanded stung for sure.) However, it is important to try and look at why these changes matter for the Corps’ future and understand the history behind such changes as they are very common, they just happened before everyone had a social media account.

A History of Unit Changes

When I arrived in the “fleet” in September 1990, I checked into what was, at the time, “Delta” Company 1/8, most of whom had come over from the recently disbanded “Lima” Company 3/4. Within 30 days of arrival, Delta Company was disbanded and most of us reassigned to Bravo Company as battalions started eliminating the “4th” rifle company such as Hotel 2/8 and Mike 3/8.

Within a few years, 3rd Bn 4th Marines (3/4) was stood back up; only now as part of the 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division. The late 80’s saw 6th Marine Regiment disband 2/6 and for years operate as only 2 battalions as 8th Marines had 4 with 2/4 part of it. Eventually 2/4 went to 6th Marines which created an equal amount of battalions in the East Coast infantry regiments, and 2/4 would eventually disband and stand back up as 2/6.

Meanwhile, 2/4 later found itself in California as part of 5th Marines. There are dozens of changes like this, but the bottom line is the Corps has always been reshuffling the deck chair when it comes to its infantry units. This is not the first and most certainly won’t be the last of such changes, up or down.

So What is the Corps Thinking?

For a few years now, even under that of previous commandant General Robert Neller, the Corps has been making a shift, and the current commandant General David Berger is determined to complete it. During the tempo of two simultaneous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Marine Corps took on a role that quickly overshadowed its role as a maritime-based strike force. The needs on the ground meant longer and more frequent deployments for Marines and deploying as much larger units such as regiments and divisions.

At the end of the day it goes without saying that Marines will scale up as needed to meet the nation’s needs, but with the world and our policies changing, the need for Marines to once again be a smaller, faster, and agile force has never been more important. That includes greater integration. Not only with the Navy but also the other branches of service.

If you are looking for validation of this, look no further than the December 31, 2019 attack on the US Embassy in Iraq. Marines had a small task force, not even full battalion size, which were forward deployed and able to respond immediately to the embassy.  They did so in partnership with US Army aviation assets. This is truly the future role the Corps will play in the world. And while the Corps may be scaling back in some areas, they are scaling up where it counts- such as a larger, better equipped and more autonomous infantry squad, which is deployed for the first time as part of 2/8 with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit.

Another major change is the size of deployments, I write recently about the growing role of company size deployments:


I also visited with two different Marine infantry battalions, which are both preparing to deploy their companies independently, in several different areas across the globe. We are facing a decreased access to overseas bases which translates clearly to leveraging our Naval power, which is incomplete without Marines.

Don’t Forget the Reserves

Throughout the tempo of Iraq, Afghanistan, and operations prior- such as Desert Storm, Haiti, and the Balkans; Marine Corps Reserve units have stepped up and been an equal part of the fight and scaling up of forces. Even now, some Reserve units are taking on deployments normally handled by active units.

Let it Play Out

It is important to remember why the Marine Corps exists and let these changes play out. The Corps has proven, without question, that it can scale right back up if needed, and has been proven in every major conflict. The details remain to be seen as to what the Corps’ armor and artillery strategy will look like, but it will have to align with the changing shape and operations of infantry units.

More on larger operations:

Validation of the Marine Corps’ Infantry Agility- The Regimental Combat Team

We Marines do not like changes, especially not when it appears to change our specific roles, units, and history. We must however, remind ourselves that the world stage has always required changes and the Corps has, time and time again, demonstrated it’s readiness and adaptability. Like every major change, it is always a gamble for the Commandant to determine how these changes will be received. It will be up to every level of leadership, down to the fireteam level, to keep the focus on the mission of the Corps, no matter how it evolves.

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16 thoughts on “The Commandant’s Gamble”

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    Terminal Lcpl Riley

    Sad sit rep…not for it. Its ok for certain circumstance and yet totally inadequate for all others.

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    Seems to me that we will be to dependant on other branches, for aviation, arty, tank and tracs. We have fought long and hard to be independent and a stand alone branch, just to give it all back.
    Al Gray is sick about now!

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    Thanks man. Needed this. Served in 3/8 wpns company. Was pretty bummed. This puts into perspective though. Good read.

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    Good job, Fez. I was the Exec Officer of 8th Marines from June 1990 til Aug 1991.
    I was, as you very well know, assigned as CO, 2dBn,8thMar, from Aug 91 til Mar 1993. I lived through all the changes within 2d MarDiv that you reference.
    The deactivation and redesignation of Infantry bns during the time after Desert Storm was due to a manpower reduction in the Corps. It was not due to a change of mission for the Corps. III MEF is/soon will be the main effort for the Corps. I MEF and II MEF are the supporting effort. I am concerned about their ability to execute traditional Marine operational tasks in their respective AO’s. I need to do more study of this transition
    for the Marine Corps.

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    MAGTF (MARINE AIR GROUND TASK FORCE) The Marine Corps has operated on this concept well before my service, looks like we will be outsourcing some of our combined arms capabilities to the Army in the future. Hope we get priority of fires…..

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    The Marine Corps Motto has always been “First to Fight” “Last to Fall” U.S.M.C. never depended on any other Branch of the Military. It really don’t matter what I think, but I would like to see The Marine Corps being the way they always were and not to have any changes.

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    Extremely well written commentary on the changes. Much appreciated. As an old Assault Boat Coxswain (’67-’69) I have huge respect for the Corps…..and I always gave maximum effort to keeping your boots dry on amphibious landings.

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      Hey Brother I got to 2/8 in Jan 93 and was there until May 94, did the GITMO SPMAGTF with them. Prior I was in 1/8 Sep 90 to Jan 93

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    I think this is more a budget move than a tactical move. One of the things that has made the Corps effective as an effective fighting force is that every Marine is a Rifleman mentality, the other branches do not possess this skill. Close air support could suffer from this as that pilot knows more what that Marine Grunt is going through and is more likely to get that mission accomplished. I know it says that Armor and Aviation was going to be reduced in size and not totally eliminated. However, in comparison how is manpower numbers going to be effected with these changes? I have not seen that referenced.

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    No matter how much I squint, I can’t see the upside to eliminating Marine Corps armor, artillery and aviation assets. The historical successes to which you refer depended on the aggressiveness of our Marine Corps culture and the flexibility of a combined arms command. As grunts, we were accustomed to being shuffled to “Support the needs of the Corps”. Now hear this: When you need air support, you pray to the Almighty that it’s a Marine pilot overhead. When you need arty or armor, you pray that that cannon-cocker or tanker is a Marine, because you know that they have trained in accordance with the doctrine that guided your training. I am not suggesting we can’t count on our other services, but we know we can, by God, count on each other. ‘Nuff said.

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    Robert C. Saenz

    Although I agree with most of the article, i do not agree with the notion that ridding the Marine Corps of tanks and artillery would be a wise decision. Artillery and tanks are major infantry support systems and losing them quite frankly makes no sense. Yes, drone strikes are a great advancement in technology support but heavy artillery is a huge game changer on the battlefield.

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    I guess this explains less time being spent at 29 palmas?

    I’m out now for 20 yrs but in for 22.
    I like many others hate to see our
    Corps more dependent on others after
    always completing our missions only to see changes. All I can say is
    “Aye sir” God Bless our country and the USMC

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    Hey Sip,
    As you may know I was one of those Marines who served with Lima 3/4. Upon returning from our Panama deployment 3/4 was disbanded to become Delta 1/8. There lots of good memories while serving with 1/8 from October, 1988 to November, 1990. Hopefully, 8th Marines could make a return sometime in the future.

    Semper Fi Marines!


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