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200k sign petition to reinstate Navy Capt Crozier

“Keeping over 4,000 young men and women on board the TR is an unnecessary risk and breaks faith with those Sailors entrusted to our care,” Captain Brett Crozier wrote in a letter to Navy brass. This letter was leaked and published by the San Francisco Chronicle.

Subsequently, Capt Crozier was fired as the commander of the USS Teddy Roosevelt. However, the Navy states he will keep his rank and continue to serve.

The Navy’s decision comes based on several claims. First, the letter was sent over an unsecure server. Secondly, the letter caused unnecessary panic over COVID-19 fears. Moreover, it painted the image the Navy didn’t care about it’s sailors.

The USS Teddy Roosevelt is currently docked in Guam. Meanwhile, some critics claim the Captain “told our enemy about a down ship” and the firing was justified. However, over 213k people have signed a petition to Reinstate Captain Crozier as Commanding Officer.

For instance, the petition signers claim that since the letter, the Navy has partnered with the host nation to move sailors to hotels and provide protective security. The ship is currently running on a skeleton crew.

Crozier wrote, “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

To clarify, Acting United States Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly said of the firing:

“…the Captain’s actions made his Sailors, their families, and many in the public believe that his letter was the only reason help from our larger Navy family was forthcoming, which was hardly the case.”

However, many people across the political and public spheres have criticized the firing.What do you think about the whole situation? Did the Navy do enough? Was Capt Crozier in the right or wrong? Did Capt Crozier deserve the punishment?

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151 thoughts on “200k sign petition to reinstate Navy Capt Crozier”

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      Timothy Colbath

      From what I’ve been able to find it was Not classified. It is still unknown who exactly leaked the letter. Why isn’t the question: why did the Navy ignore this Captain when he ran the letter up the chain of command in the first place? Unless the Captain actually leaked the letter himself – The Captain should be reinstated to his post immediately.

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    Steve Chrispen

    If he indeed told the enemy about a down ship and there’s evidence to back it up he should be punished. However I’m sure certain brass of the navy didn’t care and they would have swept it under the sea floor. However the letter leaked and they have to care, so yes…reinstate him!

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      In the military you have the freedom to shut your D holster.

      I believe the captain, tried to run the incident to his chain of command. Once he saw no action was taken, as happen in many cases he took it upon himself to not stop any joe from leaking it. I was never in the navy(hooah) however, if I would been unlucky enough to be a seaman. I would respect that capt. For his sounding the alarm and worrying about his own neck. Reinstate immediately.

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      Can you please explain where free speech comes in to play. Yes we are to be kept in the dark, is there some reason you need to know? One thing about the military, you have free speech and held accountable for what you say!

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      Yes. When it comes to operations surrounding an aircraft carrier, there’s a lot everyone is kept in the dark about. As far as freedom of speech, yes, you have freedom of speech, but this doesn’t absolve you from being held accountable for the speech you have the freedom to speak.

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      TheDarkWolf0311

      There is no such thing as freer speech in the military, you are property of the federal government. While it is myth that you can get an Article 15 for a sunburn for the whole “destruction of government property” stories their are other charges that can be levied if you cant do your duty because of said sunburn.

      Civilians have much more freedoms than those of us that serve and have served in the military. The UCMJ is very strict, very old fashioned and some what barbaric in what is allowed and not allowed. In addition to the UCMJ each branch of service has other rules that Marines, sailors, airmen and soldiers must follow or be held accountable for.

      Do I think Captain Brett Crozier was unfairly handled, yes as he was looking out for his sailors like a good commander should but he did announce to the world that a naval vessel is partially compromised and that can make that ship a target for those that want to make a statement. So I have very mixed feelings on this subject but I have to lean to the side of taking care of my troops

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      Bruce A. Frank (long discharged MM3)

      Heather, members of the military are under the law of Uniform Code of Military Justice. Due to necessary secrecy in the military, one’s Constitutional rights are superseded by the UCMJ. One of the first things we learn in boot. One cannot speak out in a way that might provide information that an enemy might find useful. There are secure channels that should be used.

      But, if, as it MAY be in this case, the officer found the chain of command unresponsive, going public may have been worth the risk to his status and career.

      I have to say, he lucked out, and won out likely because his firing was done is in an equally ill-advised public way!

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      You do not have freedom of speech when it could/is a violation of OPSEC and PERSEC. This letter stated the vulnerability of the ship and could have posed a threat to the safety of our soldiers.
      Military and their families have different rules under the “freedom of speech”.

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      Charles White LCDR(ret)

      This is a tough spot to be in. Your crew needs help and to the best of your knowledge help is not coming. Captain Crozier DID inform the enemy of his operational readiness. That doesn’t mean that the ship and the squadrons are not ready for war. Each of those sailors are replaceable. So on that count he is guilty; however, his primary responsibility, is to take care of his sailors. I do not know what he had done prior to sending the letter but as a CO I’m sure that the letter was not his first attempt at requesting assistance. I commend him for caring for his crew, and I don’t think he deserved what he got, but he knew all too well what was going to happen when he took those actions and he did it anyway for his crew. BZ Skipper.

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      Your in the service, you do as you are ordered. You give up certain rights when you volunteer to serve your country. It is sacrificed but necessary.

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      Britt Blankenship

      Heather,
      Military personnel fall under the UCMJ, not the Constitutional Bill of Rights. The freedom of speech in not is the UCMJ.

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    The Captains immediate superior, an Admiral was on board this vessel and kept out of the loop. There are 4 Admirals in his chain of command he skipped over to address SecNav directly. Until I knew these facts I sided with the Captain but I can no longer do so. He did not exhaust all military options before going public. He should not be reinstated.

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        LCDR Oneill NC USNR (ret)

        Neil sure is.. and I served in the military to give moron Neil freedom of speech..get a lifeNeil. Capt Crozier is to be commended! And reinstated to his command.

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    I believe he should have known there was a more appropriate means of communicating his concerns…unless he was intentionally creating a stir, to garner publicity, or for worse reasons.

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    He should have been fired! As a US Navy vet there is no way this should have been made public as it puts the security of the country at risk! The carrier is a major part of our offensive and defensive capability. This should have been done with secure communication channels. I would not want to be on that ship in war conditions with the decision process used, he is clearly weak and panicked.This is not to say a virus on a ship is not a huge problem as it is however, the way it was done was wrong. He says we are not at war, tell that to China! We are always at and should always be ready for war! That was an ignorant comment.

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    Of course, there is the starched shirt excuse version of the firing “He went outside official channels”. In reality, this otherwise great CO was sacked for making his chain of command look bad. It’s simply unforgivable in the military and always has been. What the chain of command did in retaliation, is precisely why the Navy looks (and has for centuries now) bad. “You will preserve the self-image of the USN’s Godlike Status, or taste the back of our hand, swabby.”

    It really is that simple.

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      Kevin Altmiller

      Would that be the liberal media? He is now the poster child for the libs. Everyone gets a prize, 2 2 =5.. no responsibility. And I am sure all the people in the media with their military experiance have valid opinions 😂😂

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        Hey if the Hillary as Secretary of State can use an unsecured server for U.S. Government emails and get away with it….. then apparently anyone (Capt. Crozier) can. This is why she needs to be held accountable.

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          While a good point, two wrongs don’t make a right. I have only heard one side of the story. The leak is very suspicious. AND what message does this send to the rest of the fleet? It’s OK to jump command and go right
          to the top. Why not PODUS then? While I think he was trying to do the right things, it was not what he should have done, so hopefully, he gets a nice desk job at the Pentagon and realizes he had it pretty good.

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            I think this is another good point. The carrier is the back bone of the battle group and is responsible for other ships and crew safety. Just as the other ships in the fleet protect the carrier. You cant just pull a carrier off line without a plan, and that takes time.

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    Richard Smith

    Bring him back we need more like him to stand up an let leaders knows airman sailors marines an soldiers matter!!!

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      Kevin Altmiller

      This is an interesting post. During my 4 years in the navy I never thought about if I mattered or not. It was always do your job as a crew, take what comes, and get the job done! No room for feelings and self loathing when I served.

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    The Navy doesn’t want to face facts that this virus can cripple a war machine! He did right, the method may be in question, but he was taking care of his people when it is scarce these days!

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        David J. Cerame

        If the crew is ill and combat ineffective, ‘fighting the ship’ becomes impossible…in fact, keeping “Big Stick” out is hazardous to the ship and crew!

        If they lost her to an on-board fire because of errors by ill sailors, what replaces billions of dollars of vessel, aircraft, and lives…???

        Big Navy either trusts their commanding officers, or they can shove those lead bottoms out of their chairs and bring in new brass that does understand it…

        This is not war, when you carry on and stay in the fight. Others can wave the flag in the pond…

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          I am looking at this from two perspectives. I am currently an ICU nurse in PA as well as served four years on a naval vessel.
          There were 150 crew that tested positive, the health and age of the crew is also a huge factor. I would submit the crew was not combat ineffective but could potentially reach that point over a long period of time. My big problem is this should not be broadcasted over the 1MC. The crew was put at greater risk because the weakness was broadcast around the world. I recommend reading the art of war by Sun Tzu

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            Exactly! And a great read, the first time was in my Vietnam War History class, and now I have the pocket edition and use in the business word! AND THANK YOU Kevin for taking the front lines in my home state! Stay healthy!

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      I know a lot of my Liberal friends who didn’t serve all think he should be reinstated and were passing around the petition on FB. While I sympathized with the Captain’s plight I also Know that in the 21 yrs I served in the Navy the Captain Assumes all responsibility for the ship and crew and the actions carried out by them.

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    Firing him for blowing the whistle on a HUGE dangerous intentional oversight is BS. He was obviously loved by his crew which was proven by the chant from EVERYONE in the ship when he was forced to leave. That is the problem in this world say ONE THING that some big shot gets his panties in a bunch over and your Career is OVER. Just like they TRIED TO DO the the Navy Seal commander recently that President Trump quickly put the brakes to. This man should be IMMEDIATELY REINSTATED.

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      I am not quite sure what he blew the whistle on. Could you please explain that a bit more.
      The crew rarely knows the captian on a ship that size. I am sure some former cheer leader that had hurt feelings for some reason or another thought it would be nice and it was not fair for him to get fired. The crew was probably ordered to do it. This is not even close to the navy seal situation. The sad part is the crew was cheering him for putting their lives in danger, isn’t that ironic.

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    Need more info…

    1. Did he already ask for help?
    2. Was he thinking in the best interest of his crew?

    I saw today he tested positive for COVID-19, was he more fearful because he was having signs and symptoms. Fearing for his own life?

    As I stated above… I need more info. I believe there’s more to the story.

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      That where I am at. I read the acting SECNAV’s response and it sounded like he had direct comms available to him, but then still sent the email. So someone is not telling the full story. I would like to hear the Captin’s response to the acting SECNAV. I would also like to understand more of why the acting SECNAV stepped down. Was it he was pissed at how this was going down, or did he know he screwed up. So we will have to wait and see.

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    Roger McKeown

    This man is proof that under the Trump administration, that you are not allowed to protect the people that you serve.
    You are only allowed to protect the people that ” serve you “.

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      Really? you think it’s Trumps fault? Well isn’t that a special kind
      of thinking! You sure it wasn’t an Obama holdover?

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    He jeopardized national security by indicating a weakness in the fleets ability to fight.
    As citizens, each and everyone of us should be upset that a man entrusted with one of the most important–and expensive–taxpayer-funded weapons system broke the chain of command to make a political statement during a time of international crisis. In so doing, Captain Crozier laid bare a critical vulnerability that a coterie of American rivals may decide to take advantage of

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      I don’t think he PURPOSELY did that… He accidentally sent the letter thru the chain with his personal email.
      And it got leaked.

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      You totally nailed it! It is pretty obvious that a lot of these people commenting don’t understand how and why the military is operated. Nor do they take the security of our nation and it’s military seriously. What Mark says above is absolutely spot on! 🇺🇸💕

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      The Admiral was down the hall from his quarters, there was no reason for this to get to a newspaper even if the admirals above him ignored the Captain. We are not at war with China but get into confrontations at sea with them in the Far East Sea lanes on a regular basis, and this virus may be a Chinese biological weapon, we don’t know yet. The UCMJ is written for crazy situations like this, you don’t break the chain of command unless he asks permission of the four Admirals above him to contact the Secnav, and not by letter on an unsecured server/email account. The Captain got lucky with public sentiment in this crazy situation. I’m sure this will make a great lecture series at the Naval and other Academy and War Colleges. however

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    LEONARD NADOLNY

    As a retired USAF Master Sergeant, my opinion is the Commander handled the matter in the worst way possible for a Commander of a vessel that has a great deal of strategic importance. Civilians don’t understand the military mind. The mission mindset is critical to successful operations, in war and peacetime. Our enemies (and we have them) are many and any sign of weakness is not good for America. He should have kept this ‘in the Navy’ and used proper channels to voice his concern. I don’t believe he should leave the Navy, but he should never command a strategic asset an an aircraft carrier. Feelings do not matter, mission success and the defense of America does.

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    I’m a former Damage Controlman first class petty officer. He was in command and made the call so I think he should have never been relieved of command. Sincerely J.T.C. DC1 (SW).

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    The Response from The Acting Secretary of the Navy in my opinion is NOT a feasible reason for firing This Captain. It interprets literally into: The Captain made us look bad. (Although I do not know who personally fired Captain Crozier) There may be certain protocol that the Captain may have to take into account but this in my opinion that is not something to fire him over. I think he should be reinstated and that in times such as these it’s unreasonable to fire Personnel without weighing other ways of disciplining him.

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    Alan M Carroll SFC Retired

    The CPT did wrong by publicly showing the weakness of a single ship. The navy should reprimand him but he is a competent leader showing true concern for this in his command and should not be relieved of command.

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    Doesn’t matter who leaked it. He used a nonsecure computer to send it.
    Just like killary, he should be condemned.

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    Wes Muyco Mechanical Consultant

    Glad the Captain was reinstated to his original rank..
    Veteran USMC with 2/9th marines

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    Cayetano Luis Leos

    As a Commanding Officer he did exactly what he was supposed to; he protected his men by being their voice to the higher ups!! As an Army Veteran I not only commend him for his actions but salute him for taking a figuritive bullet for his men!!

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      John Santiago

      One thing people must under stand.
      The major focus if our military is to 1st, protect the country. They also enforce democracy. Not practice it!!
      Our military is not a democratic institution. There is a chain of command for a reason. Which he did not follow. He should have been punished, but not fired.

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    Troy N Wadford

    Captain Crozier did absolutely the right thing in addressing the concerns and safety of his crew.

    Isn’t that what COs are supposed to do?

    Reinstate Captain Crozier.

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    Steven Ludwiski

    21 years of experience tells me how he went about this was wrong. However he should have never been relieved, and should not have been disparaged by the Acting SECNAV.

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    Oscar Agueda USA SFC Retried

    It’s great to see that there are officers out there that put the health and safety of their soldiers, in this case sailors, ahead of their careers. This deal about telling the enemy; the enemy is in the same or worst situation as we are. If any country attacks another during these times, the entire world will be against the. My hats off to CAPT Crozier!

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      How do you know what situation the Chinese, I believe that’s who we are talking about here or Iran are in? The Captain hazarded the ship by going through improper channels. The mission comes above the crew or the Captain, the Captain got very lucky public sentiment for the crew created a backlash and Trump let the acting SECNAV get fired.

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    CURTIS SCHMITT

    THE CAPTAIN WAS CORRECT IN WANTING TO PROTECT HIS ENTIRE CREW. PROTOCOL MY ASS. WHEN THE HIGHER UPS DON’T DO THEIR JOB, OFFICERS HAVE TO DO THEIRS. AND THAT MEANS ANY WAY POSSIBLE. HE DID WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE…PERIOD

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    First off, he didn’t exhaust all his official options. Plain and simple, this is the military, there is no going to the press…. Ours is not to wonder why, ours is but to do and die… suck it up cupcake, you are property of the United States government, like it or not and at that high of a rank, he should of known better. To be honest, he should of been court martialed, not just reassigned…

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    Kerry Bamrick

    He went outside the chain of command. He knew the risk when he did it. Now he should accept his fate.

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    He breached the chain of command and for this there is no excuse. There is no “free speech” in the military. It is his responsibility to be the calm voice in the storm. He should have kept the info in house and held his crew together regardless.

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      I agree. The symptoms of those onboard were mild. He could have isolated those he could, sterilized where possible, kept his chain of command abreast and let them determine when it was prudent to bring the vital national security asset off station.

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      I don’t think he PURPOSELY did that… He accidentally sent the letter thru the chain with his personal email.
      And it got leaked.
      That’s my understanding of what happened

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    Don’t feel sorry for this captain, if it was an enlisted man he would of been removed for far less and would of been thrown in the brig.
    Just look at what they tried to do to Chief Gallagher. Officers country tends to be vicious, so when the vicious decide to eat they’re own so be it. Bottom line the Brass lost confidence in him due to his actions, he should of used the Chain Of Command!

    BMC (SW/CM) ret

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    Any private, seaman or airman, do what he did, they would fry! He should be held accountable. He knows the system and bypassed it.

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    First and foremost of importance the Captain did not utilize chain of command of which above his rank. That in itself could result in loss of rank under NJP. No he will not be reinstated as Captain regardless of how many petitions signed.

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    Lynette Kauffman

    REINSTATE CAPT CROZIER!! He was doing right by those under his charge. He recognizes the importance of the Navy’s most essential and important asset, its sailors. He does not deserve to be punished for doing his job when Big Navy did not respond quickly enough to the very real threat. I no time flat theTR would have had their own pandemic. Being a15 year Navy Vet I admire the Captain’s forward action and would gladly serve under his direction with honor.

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    Michael Untalan

    First and foremost: Host nation?? Guam is probably if not the most important territory of the United States.
    The simple fact this information was released to the public is grounds for relief. What level of security did he send the letter?
    Confidential? Secret? Top Secret? Trust is not acceptable.

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    Michael Rockwell

    His men love him and respect him.
    They will follow him through the gates of hell and back! Exactly who you want commanding the T.R.!

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    I think there is more to the story. You are not made a Captain of a nuclear warship without understanding chain of command. That an officer put his career on the line for his sailors…means a lot. I am glad he is staying in the Navy. We need more officers like him.

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    I empathize with CAPT Crozier. The DOD makes a big public affairs deal about caring for individual people, but when you get down to the nut cutting, we individuals are almost all expendable. We are in an unusual national situation due to the Chinese Communist Party Virus, also known as COVID-19. Once a highly contagious virus like COVID-19 gets loose in a confined and crowded environment like a naval vessel, its contagious spread is probably unstoppable. I think that CAPT Crozier could have chosen other means of action. But I strongly suspect that the Navy bureaucrats told CAPT Crozier that the Teddy Roosevelt could NOT put into port and could not be taken out of duty. That was just the sort of outcome that the People’s Republic of China was seeking when it unleashed this new plague onto the world. If you do not believe that COVID-19 is an escapee from the PLA’s Level 4 Bio-War lab in Wuhan, then I have some future ocean-front property n Arizona I’d like to sell you.

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    McDonald Meek

    I would Serve under him anytime I know he has my 6
    to save my people I would skip ahead and go direct to the SN
    I understand the letter was leaked

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    Leaders do not air our clean or dirty laundry to the public. An 06 has plenty of weight to debate an argue policy with leadership thru chain of command and IG. He screwed the pooch and broke protocol and comsec policy. Right intentions bad execution. Off to the halls of puzzle palace.

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    the captain was attempting to insure his crew will be safe… this is his job. when he did not get the support he ask for from the ppl up the food chain was he suppose to let the crew and ship with 5000 personal be compromised ? he was dismissed for what he did and would of been dismissed when the crew all became infected because those above him did not support him so you’ll me…….

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    he gave 30 years of his life to protect this country..did not want to see his men die without getting them some help..what was wrong with that? he cared and was punished…do not think the punishment fit the crime..and then he tested positive for the virus…not good at all

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    Go navy smooth sailing! The chain of command sometimes sees us as numbers and not necessarily as an individual willing to sacrifice for our country. He was most likely ignored and silenced by superiors and sacrificed his own status for the men and women who needed him.

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    Unless you know both sides of the “complete” story, then your opinion on whether or not he should be reinstated means nothing. Did the Captain use his chain of command to express his concerns? Was he not happy with the speediness of the Navy’s response to his concerns? Were the Captain’s concerns as voiced to his chain of command being ignored? Either way, Captain Crozier should have never sent his email to the press. Regardless, that was a mistake on his part. Oh, and if you’re a civilian that has never served, then keep your no experience “armchair quarterback” opinion to yourself. That’s like me trying to give my opinion to a doctor when I have no medical experience.

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    Hoooorah… Im glad hes able to keep his rank and continue serving.
    His #1 job is to take care of sailors who trust him with their lives…
    As a BU2 vet of the USN.
    I stand behind him 100%

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    As a Retired Senior Chief I believe he handled this in a completely unsatisfactory manner. This is a warship designed to stay on station in its assigned area as a deterrent to war. It is a representation of our projected and forward power. In a time of war it would be a first strike target! He made it painfully aware through the wrong channels and contrary to his orders that a situation developed that could be taken advantage of by the ship being pulled away from where it was supposed to be. Dismissed for loss of confidence was appropriate. He could have mitigated what he could until such time his chain of command deemed it appropriate to pull that warship off station such as isolated and sterilized. God forbid it was war and he lost a few of his crew to a missile strike and he determined since someone got hurt they have to bow out of the fight. This is a warship, not a cruise ship.

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      Senior chief I think your post says it best! I do not think the complexity of the fleet/battle group and the part that each ship plays to support each other in the battle group is understood by the general public. You cant just pick up your marbles and go home as it puts other ships and sailors at risk.
      GMG2

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    The positive is modly is out . Our sailors health and welfare and morale is being addressed. Capt. Crozier improvised adapted and formulated a plan of attack against this enemy which is not covered in any manual and at great risk to his career to save his crew. This is the type of Captain your crew will sail thru hell and high water with. God bless Capt. Crozier and god bless the crew of the USS Theodore Roosevelt! (Semper Fidelis)

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    The action by the acting Sec of Navy to relieve the TR Skipper was justified, given the facts currently or presently known and understood. If the Captain is so ‘beloved’ by his crew then the Skipper wasn’t doing his job. Yet, for the acting Navy Secretary to call him a derogatory name in public was…wrong, simply unprofessional and unacceptable. The entire situation is a terrible episode of a national security violation and national security risk. It announced to the Chinese that one of the world’s most advanced weapon systems was taken out of service. Given the mentality of the Navy senior officer leadership maybe that was what the Chinese intended and succeeded doing. The Captain said, “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die.” This statement has many old warriors wondering exactly what the Captain was saying and take exception; so, if we are at war therefore sailors ‘need’ to die? Send the Captain packing and away from sailors and appoint a new Sec of Navy!

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    James A. Davis

    Guam is not a “host nation.” It has been a territory of the United States for many years. It has a long history as a US Naval Base, and an Air Force base, and a US Naval Hospital where I was BORN 66 years ago.

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    SINCE WHEN SHOULD THE LETTER BE LEAKED? IF THERE ARE ANY PUNISHMENTS; IT SHOULD FALL UPON WHOEVER LEAKED THIS OFFICER’S LETTER! DID THE REST OF THIS OFCR’S CAREER WARRANT THIS EXTREME MEASURE? I ASSURE YOU THAT THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR ENTIRE REPUBLIC; AND MILITARY HAS BEEN TERRIBLY AFFECTED BY THE ANTI-AMERICAN, ETERNALLY “OFFENDED”; IN AN JOINT EFFORT TO STRIP US ALL OF OUR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. CAT. CROZIER IS JUST ANOTHER VICTEM OF THE CLINTON CABAL!

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    He should of use the chain of command and a secure channel. Now that I got that out of the way. He was looking out after his Sailors. That’s what a commanding Officer suppose to do. The Navy was failing him as well. Put him back in charge of his ship. Makes sure he doesn’t do this again but use the chain of command and a secure line! Semper Fi.

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    A petition to keep this guy out of command would garner more signatures, but he’s not going to be put back, so we don’t have to start a counter-petition.

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    The captain saved the lives of those he’s responsible for I think he took the only action he could they should look for that piece of shit that leaked the letter could and should be in jail

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    The Captain was faced with the age old question “ Mission or Soldiers, Sailors, Airman and Marines first”! I served 23 years in the Army at all different levels. Leadership is never easy and tough decisions must be made. I applaud this Captain for trying to take care of the Sailors. His method was clearly wrong. I’m not Navy- so I’m not sure what CoC was above him. However, we all know that jumping the CoC will always get your ass handed to you. I’m a recipient of a handed ass which was mine for doing so ONCE!

    I believe his intentions and heart were 100% in the right place. His handling was 100% wrong.

    Lastly, let’s not at all pretend that the Navy has EVER done well over the course of history with their Leaders making sound decisions.

    Perhaps, they need to revamp their leadership building at a much younger career level.

    Although, the Captain was wrong, I don’t think it warranted being Fired.

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    The military cannot afford to have any individual break ranks within the chain of command whenever they are so motivated. There is a structure and process for a reason. Wherever you are in the command structure, there is a method for voicing your opinions and concerns. At the end of the day, you follow the lawful orders of your superiors and seek to resolve any legitimate dispute through the chain of command. This is military law and professional military behavior.
    Imagine a bus with forty passengers all fighting over control of the steering wheel and you get the metaphorical picture!

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    Lawrence David Morris

    He sent his request over proper channels, the fact that someone else on the receiving end leaked the letter isn’t his fault. The fact that he cared about the men & women on board his ship, was not stupidity but the act of Command! The Secretary of the Navy should be fired for his own stupid actions without proper investigating the situation, then flying out to Guam to address his own stupid option like he did. Only displayed disregard of any naval traditions or proper leadership!
    The Secretary of the Navy should be “Drummed out of Office” in the original way! I as a Marine Veteran to expect him to fly to Guam and apologize for his action, then fly to California and apologize in person to Captain Crozier. Then formally apologize to the members of the Armed Forces! I doubt he will as he lacks any mental fortitude or bering of leadership!

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    There should be a thorough investigation, because the effect of the letter he wrote was that actual and potential adversaries knew that his ship at least seemed to be combat ineffective. Even if the ship’s being unable to perform its mission were only in his mind, that is effectively the same thing. Also, it isn’t known whether he informed his chain of command before sending a letter like that over an unsecure net. That’s a matter for investigation. If they green lighted it, they need to be held accountable also. What is known is that zero sailors, himself included, actually got sick, testing aside. That shows a lack of perspective and understanding of the situation, which calls into question his decision making ability. His popularity with his sailors is irrelevant except for the fact it makes it next to impossible for the next commander to do his job. Being relieved was appropriate, but the the SECNAV addressing the officers and crew and calling Crozier stupid, was well…stupid. It could be nobody in the Pacific fleet or DoD cared until the letter came out, it could also be that he jumped the gun. The net effect was pretty bad though. Bottom line is now we need to discover and examine the facts and go from there.

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    Rangemaster11B

    I was taught 3 basic principles of leadership:
    Accomplish the mission
    Lead by example
    Take care of your troops.
    Cpt. Crozier was doing just that.

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    Too many unanswered questions to really make a determination. Did the Navy have guidelines on how to deal with a contagious virus? Probably. Were they used or exhausted? Who knows. Did the immediate chain of command indicate no matter what the buck stopped there? We will never find out. Regardless the Capt will now never make Admiral which as a battleship commander I’m sure was the next step for him. Maybe he knew he would pay consequences but can sleep at night knowing he saved sailors lives. It’s easy to give a flippant answer but without the facts who really knows. Any military member knows the chain of command and what will happen if not followed. Capt Crozier will pay a steep price regardless, ride a desk, never command a naval asset again and give up a star is not getting away with anything. He’s either heroic for sacrificing for his career for the sailors or an incompetent officer. Either way we will never know with military brass butt covering and finger pointing sure to follow.

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    Respect is always earned never not given.
    Brass tends to expect it without putting in the work.
    The few that have acknowledged their success comes from the men and women that ensure the mission gets done are the ones that are remembered in the history books.

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    He was only sending a letter of concern for the men and women under his command through the chain of command. The person responsible for leaking the information, which I’m sure wasn’t sent via Facebook, Messenger, or Twitter. The content of the letter or circumstances in which it was written isn’t what is bothering me. The fact that a captain of a United States Aircraft Carrier can’t send a message without the whole world knowing of it kinda bothers me the most.

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    Follow up from my first reply… Did not know he skipped chain of command and was the one that let it out to the press/public. Strip him down and court martial him. He put a lot of things at risk hitting the panic button on a situation the Navy would have handled the way they were trained to handle a situation like this.

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    The positive is Modly is out. Capt. Crozier improvised and adapted to the threat to his crew that was not taught at any academy. At risk to his career he put the welfare of his crew first. The video of the crews reaction shows it all. They will follow him thru hell and high water. God bless Capt. Crozier and god bless the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

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    William P. Waymire, Jr.

    CAPT Crozier deserves a reprimand for improper communication, which included sources outside of his chain-of-command. The SECNAV should have never acted as abruptly to relieve CAPT Crozier from command of USS Theodore Roosevelt. We (the public) have not been properly advised whether CAPT Crozier attempted to use the chain-of-command, and his communiques were either ignored or not handled appropriately.

    My bottom line: 1. His superiors should have directed him to take his vessel off station and proceed to nearest port in order for officers and crew to receive proper medical attention ASAP. In this respect, the Navy would have been taking care of its personnel and continuing to complete the mission at hand. 2. Thank God for President Trump who became involved so that CAPT Crozier’s career and reputation was not besmirched or ruined based upon a judgement call by his superiors. 3. CAPT Crozier should not have been relieved of command. 4. CAPT Crozier should be given the option of another assignment or retire.

    I am a US Marine Corps Captain on disability retirement for 32 years based upon injuries incurred over 33 1/2 years ago. I served in the Field Artillery MOS (08) and am Airborne/paratrooper qualified. Also, I had prior service in US Army Reserves – both Active Reserve and Active Duty. I despise seeing others receiving treatment more roughshod than I experienced in the US Army.

    Once a MARINE, Always a MARINE. (I still like the Army too because I learned a whole lot of stuff from Vietnam Veterans during that period of service.) I support President Trump and am ALWAYS A PATRIOT in defense of United States of America.

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    Capt. Crozier can you look the American people in the eye and accept the title of being a hero and you saved all those lives? Your decisions leading up to and at the time of releasing your letter the way you did was a proper way for captains of naval vessels to communicate? Would this be the way you expect military personnel follow your lead moving forward? Did you feel the chain of command was not the proper way to proceed and why? Who endangered all those awesome Navel personal on your ship in the first place? Have you ever disciplined or scrutinized anyone in under your command for discussing classified info? Do you feel that you should be back in command of a carrier? Looking back would you have done anything different?
    Just asking. I’ve never condoned all decisions and have seen some Harsh or unnecessary (In my opinion) military punishments. I have served in the USMC and deployed overseas aboard move than one Navel ship. None of us should be discussing your fate especially the media. So for all of us experts discussing this, does anyone know how our sailors are doing? I’m sorry for all that has happened to you Heroes. You deserved better from all of us.

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    The Captain allowed his sailors off in port on liberty in Vietnam a country known to have COVID. They unfortunately contracted COVID along with himself So concerns were addressed 2 days prior. Logistics were being gathered to handle the cases of COVID. A carrier has a state of the art medical facility that can handle just about everything it throws at them. The Captain then learns he himself has COVID and sends an unsecured message to 30 recipients outside of his chain of command assuring the letter will be leaked and announcing to the world that an important wartime vessel in peril. The Captain panicked because he did not like the response time and he wanted of the ship. This was not about “his” sailors. This was about him. An aircraft carrier cannot stop at the next light and get help. You cannot evacuate an entire aircraft carrier in the middle of an ocean. You have to find a place to dock and offload potential cases. That’s why it took so long. The 19 infected crew members were fine on board. They have ICU capabilities on board. Everyone who thinks this Captain deserves a medal are the same ones who stand up for other traitors like Chelsea Manning and Beaudry Robert “Bowe” Bergdahl.

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    I am a huge huge fan of our men & women serving this country. However you don’t know who to trust any longer. Corruption abounds everywhere, including the Navy. I don’t know the situation well but I believe chain of command is very important. And if he had no choice but to send the letter it should have been classified. Or something…

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    A message of that magnitude should never have been sent over an “insecure server” anyone can gain access to that it’s basically public information. A high ranking Navy professional such as the Capt. Knows or most Definitely should know this.
    I am most certain his men would feel safer with him being reinstated to his post.

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    Julio Felices

    Cpt. Crozier did the right thing for the entire crew of his ship. As being a veteran sailor myself, I would rather have a Skipper who cares for the well being of his crew members. Thank you for his action, lives of sailors are saved.

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    Gregory Bishop

    At best, Capt Crozier Was irresponsible and failed to exercise due care and diligence in allowing the letter to be released to the world, including to our adversaries. At worst, he deliberately circumvented his chain of command. He should have been relieved. He should retire and ride into the sunset.

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    I do believe that Captain Crozier is a good man and a great Capt he actually cared about His crew. I have seen some that are just robots and do whatever the higher up want done . I think Capt. crozier is a great leader

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    “…the Navy has partnered with the host nation” – do you mean, Guam, USA? Anyway, I believe that both arguments can be true at once. The Navy has to find the right balance between controlling and mitigating an outbreak on board the ship and minimize impact on war readiness while controlling negative press coverage. Much the same as the rest of the country as a whole; we need to find the balance between COVID-19 deaths vs getting the economy back running again. Finding the balance is key.

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    Should he have been removed from command? No. Should he have been disciplined or reprimanded? Yes, if he truly did use an unsecure communications channel.

    The article states that the letter was written to Navy brass…that does not mean that it went directly to the Secretary of the Navy. It could have been received by his immediate command and sent up the chain to the SecNav. The SecNav could have received it before it went public.

    There is nothing indicating how this was made public…whether it was from someone along the chain (since most communications are initially received by a staff member to prioritize), someone who was able to monitor unsecure military channels (which I cannot understand why there would be any unsecure channels), or from the captain himself. It just says that it was leaked. By this statement, it would lead me to believe that someone along the chain read the letter and released it and, with it being released to the San Francisco paper, would have me believe it was someone located at a Naval facility in the area.

    The fact that it was disclosed to the public what the Navy has done to protect the crew of the TR has done more to put the word out that the TR is operating on a skeleton crew and placing the TR in a dangerous light.

    The SecNav, himself, made several errors in judgment, one of which was relieving the captain of his duties before an investigation by the Navy had been concluded. Additionally, in an audio recording of a speech to the crew that was released to the public, the SecNav called the captain “naive” and “stupid” for his actions. These comments tell me that the SecNav acted because the captain put the health and safety of his crew first rather than put the ship first.

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    Sometimes a man or woman needs to what ever they need to do to protect his or her people!! Even if it mean your destruction!! My Honor means a lot of to me and your people are trusting that you do the right thing to protect them. Good soldiers will be loyal to those type of leaders in and off the battlefield!! The upper Naval Brass needs to get their heads out of their asses or they need to GO HOME and bake fucking bread!!

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    Paul A Pender USN(RET)

    What I don’t understand is that the Battle Group Commander was down the P-Way from news reports that I have read. If true, why wasn’t he asked to do something unless he was shot down from him. How did the letter get leaked to the SF Chronicle? Were there any Naval Messages Classified or Unclassified sent up-line and how far did they go? Why in the midst of a pandemic did they do a port visit to Vietnam? That I definitely don’t get. Here is the point, He is the tip of the spear and our enemy going forward is China. OPSEC is paramount and there are a lot of people at fault. How far up and down the Chain of Command of how this occurred is what needs to be done but ultimately the CO had to go because it happened on his Watch. And No you don’t have Freedom of Speech when you are in the military.

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    He most definitely deserved to be removed from duty. He compromised the chain of command and while it’s not expected civilians understand the incredible importance of that, it also not within the civilian population responsibilities or privileges to involve themselves in a military discipline matter.

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    Why did he get relieved of command by sending an email thru an un-secure server but Hillary Clinton ran for President and did the same thing? Double standard maybe?

    I do not condone either, but damn, keep it fair I would think?

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    Throw the baby out wit the bath water ?
    What a STUPID reason to fire someone… end a hard earned successful career over an independent decision to harbor his troops? Cmon people! Wouldn’t surprise me if DT told them to reinstate him immediately with a bump in pay !!
    Go Trump !!

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    The Capt was 100% in the right, Monday morning quarterbacking by our government saying help was on the way was quite pretentious. Capt Crozier alone, sped this process up to protect the service members on his ship. If this caused fear among civilians or military personnel, it was not his intentions. Capt Crozier should be getting a medal for making the hard decision to protect his servicemen under his watch… not the opposite! The government did nothing until the letter was leaked. Chew on that!

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    Leona Woodruff

    As a former Navy personal I can and will say that letter should never have been unclassified to begin with. It contained sensitive information for those higher up in the chain of command so it should have been classified. It did reveal to others that we have a ship, a carrier which is a population of a small city, out of operation.

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    From what I have read the letter was sent out over unsecured means and not to his direct chain of command. If he didn’t follow the chain of command using secure means, then he is wrong. By airing this in public and leaking to the press, he is wrong. On the other hand the chain of command should have dealt with any discipline instead of going straight to the top and having the Secretary deal with it. All in all this should have been kept in house both ways for a variety of reasons with operational security being first.

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    Broadcasting the operational readiness of a nuclear air craft carrier within comfortable range of the communist Chinese government? Like they wouldn’t stage an “accident” after they just deployed a weaponized virus on the world.

    He should hang for that level of stupid.

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    He should be fired. First of all let me say that I also was in the military and if this was me not using the proper chain of command then I would have been court marshalled. He used an unsecured server which is very wrong (Hillary must have given him this idea). And he basically handed our enemies this information that our ship was down due to the virus.

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    I think there were things going on we don’t know about. In light of the way Modly reacted to the crew cheering for their Captain. Flying all the way to Guam, costing $243k, to chastise the crew and all. I betting the Captain was getting the same attitude in response to his concerns, there fore felt compelled to go outside the chain with his letter.

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    John P. Sperstad

    Capt. Crozier showed true leadership by thinking of his men/ women first. Reinstate him and let him do his job.

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    Navy Secretary was just made to look like an ass. This guy needs to be relieved of command. It wasn’t until this letter came out that the above shit bag decided to do anything. He was only worried about himself and an image. I have gone above my chain of command for my Soldiers and received an ass chewing but my leadership knew why I did it. I still have my job because the people I take care of will always have my back just Like this CPTs Sailors. Good on you Sir for doing above and beyond to make something good happen for the men and women who serve under you.

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    I believe the good Captain got a raw deal, but anyone who has served knows, raw deals happen from time to time. I am pretty sure most of us have some good “war stories” about our service. That being said I applaud his dedication to his crew. The real issue is the giving out of information that a US carrier was compromised, and that jeopardized the beloved crew further. The whole thing did not have to be played out in the public view, and that was a direct result of the “leak”. What is more disheartening is that the public feels they have a say in who can and can not command an aircraft carrier. A petition? Really? I think he should retain his rank and stay in service, but captain a carrier…..
    Loose lips sink ships

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    Robert Richardson

    I was a Navy Pilot for several years and participated in the Viet Nam war. My crewmen and the sailors aboard the ships I served on are the heart and soul of the
    U.S. Navy. Keeping them healthy, informed and maintaining correct discipline while looking out for their best health interest in their typically overcrowded sleeping and dining facilities is the responsibility of senior Officers and ultimately the responsibility rests on the Captain’s shoulders. Ultimately the Navy did what he had requested and re-instating him to a position of responsibility and authority is the least the Navy can do for this dedicated senior Officer.

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    I was in the navy back in the 60’s. This is the type of CO that I would have charged the gate of hell with a glass of ice water if he’d asked me to. Damn right reinstate him!!

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    Chain of command seems broken, for a captain to feel compelled to broadcast the situation. USN would NOT have published this and removal was based on admitting issue with ship. If we need a witch hunt, start with HIS chain of command!! That failed as much as captain did. Reduce the noise about it, blow smoke, re-instate

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    Don’t know if he deserved this punishment, but every officer knows you don’t broadcast intelligence information about military readiness.

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    He violated OPSEC and INFOSEC, the reason doesn’t even matter, thus creating a greater risk to national security. He violated the primary tenet of good leadership: Set the example. The circumstances may have been bad, but there are proper avenues to getting your concerns addressed by the Chain of Command that don’t violate security and gets results. I served for 28 yrs and never once was there a CoC issue that I was not able to eventually (typically in a very short period of time) get resolved. He shotgunned that info out and if he is an intelligent man, he would have known that it would get leaked to the press, which may have been his intent. Shame on him for for even thinking that’s OK. He was properly relieved of command. If I was a member of his Command, my trust in him would be shot. He was the Commander of an Aircraft Carrier, most people can’t even begin to understand the power he was able to wield, which also means he was inline for Flag Rank. He had many options available to him just within his Command, by using available resources and creativity. His vision was narrow and myopic. I seriously doubt his actual concern was for the crew, it appears to me to be self aggrandizement. It saddens me to think there are any Active Duty or Vets that would think what he did was OK

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    Capt Crozier Needs to be reinstated! The US military needs more men like him and less of those that turn their cheekS and do NOTHING! This capt is a man to be proud of. A TRUE leader. He should run for president!

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    First he blatantly disregarded chain of command. Second he disregarded the chain of command. Third by sending it unsecured to a outside source was outside the chain of command. Also T.R.’s sailors are a great treasure, as shall I state are the fleet as a whole.

    Across the board in every branch from top to bottom, they all are important. But to cause panic and draw attention to a situation that the pentagon thoroughly had knowledge of, which I will give supposition to. They the pentagon would take care of. Yes he should get S&Ênned. Now insubordination UCMJ Article 92. Sounds familiar Lt. Col Vindman.

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    This is typical military, punishing a commander for caring more about those entrusted to him, than they think he should! God forbid a commander isn’t willing to sacrifice those under him to save Navy face! Absolutely typical across the board, if command isn’t willing to sacrifice the underlings then they must be a traitor to the Country right!?!? I understand once we sign that dotted line we are property, but I have to respect a commander who takes care of his men! Reinstate!

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    A person is supposed to look after those in their command,never fire a person for doin their job.Of coarse u have to consider who put the ”acting”Secratary in his job in the 1st.place,the person who is ”acting” president.Oh,would someone let Biden know we need him NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have a 3yr emerg.on our hands.THANX!!

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    A person is supposed to look after those in their command,never fire a person for doin their job.Of coarse u have to consider who put the ”acting”Secratary in his job in the 1st.place,the person who is ”acting” president.Oh,would someone let Biden know we need him NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have a 3yr emerg.on our hands.THANX!!

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    I took some time before deciding to comment at all.

    I have read through these, and there are a couple of things that are pretty obvious to me;
    A) – Most people have no idea about how the U.S. Military works, and WHY it MUST operate the way that it does.
    B) – Even those that DO understand how it works, none that I’ve read have stated some obvious and important facts that many likely do not consider, or choose not to.

    Some of those above I have to point out, have made some very compelling, and truthful statements. I’m just going to fill in a little where I feel it’s necessary for some to understand. There will be plenty who shout me down because I don’t care enough about someone’s “feelings” etc, but guess what,… the real world and matters of life and death on a massive scale don’t give a shit about ANYONE’S feelings, so there’s that….

    Firstly, I applaud Capt. Crozier’s concern for his people. This is an important trait of ANY good commander. But sadly, it’s not the only trait, and one in his former role must be concerned about those issues, and MUCH, MUCH larger ones.

    POINT 1 –
    Nothing about this was “incidental, or accidental”. There are those here who have stated that (paraphrasing) “he had good intentions, it’s not his fault it was leaked when he emailed it”.
    No US Officer in command of ANY strategic asset doesn’t know EXACTLY what is secure, and what is not. Also, it is literally in his job description to make decisions about what IS and/or SHOULD BE “sensitive” information (for the Leigh-person, that is information that may compromise strategic integrity or other OPSEC that could risk assets/lives in his direct theatre or elsewhere).
    In failing to do so, Capt. Crozier was one of two things, (Inept; showing an inability to properly identify such information or wilful disclosure of said information (after properly recognizing it as sensitive) outside of secure channels) and neither is remotely acceptable in a position such as was his.

    POINT 2 –
    Bobby Almond (above) – “A person is supposed to look after those in their command,never fire a person for doin their job.”
    Bobby, and all the others that have voiced similar lines of thought are lacking the larger picture, or willfully choosing to pretend that all around us is a world of lilies and butterflies;
    A) – Capt. Crozier was thinking of the immediate threat from COVID to his sailors (or at least that’s the accepted line of thought). While very commendable, this does NOT account for the larger threat to his immediate command (the TR), any and ALL on board. The Country, taxpayers, the larger theatre, and any other Military Personnel that would come involved if an adversary of any nature decided to use the information that Capt. Crozier aired to the world (or by ineptitude or choice ALLOWED to be aired to the world).
    Now you don’t have to agree for this to be true. And furthermore, no adversary has to take advantage of the information that was delivered to them for there to have been a severe compromise. Whether you agree with his decision or not, has no impact on the fact that the action was outside of USMJ, Code of Conduct, and his sworn duty. Some sailors that may be sick, or become sick is 100% Capt. Crozier’s responsibility, but is not where Capt. Crozier’s responsibilities stopped. An individual given the overwhelming responsibility he was entrusted with, HAS TO look at the much bigger picture, no matter how much it hurts, and how unpleasant the outcome to the smaller picture.

    Put in much simpler terms, it was actually Capt. Crozier’s DUTY, and responsibility to keep that information (and ANY information of such a nature) from being known by any means, outside of authorized, secure channels. In failing to do this, or allowing it, he gambled far more than his commission and job. He was unilaterally gambling with lives and assets far outside of his authority and responsibility, that every single American owns, and relies upon. The very asset(s) and lives that it is his sworn duty to protect.

    I cannot help but wonder (and thank God it’s not reality) what all these people would be saying, and how they would be calling for his head if an adversary of any variety decided to use this information, and was able to do so successfully.
    Not sailors possibly sick, not lives possibly lost, but an attack, and let’s just say “1,100 dead, 1 carrier out of action and any of an endless multitude of following potential tragedies”.
    Then it comes to light that Capt. Crozier or any such officer put out the information that an enemy used to plan said attack.
    Now we can all be grateful that this is NOT the case, but ask yourself WHAT IF?

    That is exactly what those in the position of defending our Country have to do day in, and day out. Regardless of whether or not it’s “likely” to happen, or “not probable”, but “IS IT POSSIBLE?”
    Our Military does not operate in a world of excused miscalculations. All stakes in this, are very real. There are none more dire, and thus there is no room for “meh…. that probably won’t happen, that’s just paranoid”. No matter how unlikely, it has to be considered. And the costs weighed.

    Take it for what it is, but this the reality whether you and I like it, agree with it, or not.

    For what it’s worth, I’ll bet if you could ask Capt. Crozier about what I’ve stated above, you might be surprised by the response you’d receive. Regardless of his current situation, he appears to be a capable officer and an intelligent man.

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